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buck_futter April 21st, 2009 09:48 AM

My Hopes High, then shot down by Obama
 
Heard the talk in school on Obama letting travelers go to cuba.. etc etc.

So I was optimistic towards this thinking any US civilian can travel to cuba/ the trade embargo would be lifted.
but no thats not the case. He is only allowing for family travel aka anyone cubans that want to visit their relatives in Cuba, and guess what they can also do? Give them money/gifts! With the US dollar they are likely to be getting allows the Cubans to buy stuff off their black market. And we still cant trade with cuba.

Now I dont know what's the reason behind keeping the embargo act on Cuba. I mean we are out of the cold war arent we? And if it's because theyre communist, why do we trade with china? is it because they provide cheap labor for some of our companies?.

Story found here

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/13/us...heet.html?_r=1

timmy! April 21st, 2009 01:23 PM

quit reading the new york times.

HAWKEYE April 21st, 2009 03:37 PM

WHO GIVES A SHIT

diamond-optic April 21st, 2009 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by HAWKEYE (Post 20866)
WHO GIVES A SHIT


buck_futter April 21st, 2009 06:37 PM

i wanna go to cuba for the fishing/surf. Diamond i heard they have good cuban kush. and hawkeye i heard theres tons of old ww2 paraphernalia lining the streets

HAWKEYE April 21st, 2009 08:37 PM

why the fuck do you think people make rafts out of cars to get out of that commie shit hole

buck_futter April 21st, 2009 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by HAWKEYE (Post 20873)
why the fuck do you think people make rafts out of cars to get out of that commie shit hole

because they're the ones under communist rule, not the tourists.

HAWKEYE April 21st, 2009 10:13 PM

Did you just figure out how the world works today?Hell I may not know much about politics but I know how assholes operate sort of , you just said that there only letting CUBANS in from the U.S , what tourists are you talking about , Cold War is a deffo , just not with Russia any more really there still sneaky pricks but with the other commies like Korea and other pricks I cant think of , trust China no, The bulk of the middle east no, the Blakans no, we are on the road to something for sure , to think of it Russia isnt really a threat they are dependent Europe and some Euro pricks are on us , eh well Im babbling now but yeah, FUCK Cuba who cares

buck_futter April 21st, 2009 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HAWKEYE (Post 20875)
Did you just figure out how the world works today?Hell I may not know much about politics but I know how assholes operate sort of , you just said that there only letting CUBANS in from the U.S , what tourists are you talking about , Cold War is a deffo , just not with Russia any more really there still sneaky pricks but with the other commies like Korea and other pricks I cant think of , trust China no, The bulk of the middle east no, the Blakans no, we are on the road to something for sure , to think of it Russia isnt really a threat they are dependent Europe and some Euro pricks are on us , eh well Im babbling now but yeah, FUCK Cuba who cares

I'm Talking about the US ones that go to canada then fly to cuba, plus any non American tourist. And yea.. sorry i labeled cold war as what we had with Russia, and the cuban missile crisis. I just want to know since that threat is gone why dont we let Americans travel there/why cant we trade with them? We'll be getting more out of it since we would probably be a big importer to them. As for the countries you listed above, why dont we slap trade embargoes on them and not let Americans to travel to those countries? seriously tho why not? we did it to cuba and still follow through with it, even though they dont pose a threat anymore. Plus I dont really get where you were going with mentioning them, other than saying cold war still goes on? no shit.

HAWKEYE April 22nd, 2009 03:58 PM

Well what there doing is called isolationism , which is sealing themselves off from our media or "democracey"
they dont want anything to do with it, One thing about the commies is they want control they dont want any interference especially from us, they want to keep whats theirs. Their big relations are with the biggest commies of them all (Venezuela) and dont leave out China with all the shit they have, they make alot of money, they dont need us plain and simple
^
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuba-Pe...hina_relations

buck_futter April 22nd, 2009 08:27 PM

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Authorize U.S. telecommunications network providers to enter into agreements to establish fiber-optic cable and satellite telecommunications facilities linking the United States and Cuba.

· License U.S. telecommunications service providers to enter into roaming service agreements with Cuba's telecommunications service providers.

· License U.S. satellite radio and satellite television service providers to engage in transactions necessary to provide services to customers in Cuba.

· License persons subject to U.S. jurisdiction to activate and pay U.S. and third-country service providers for telecommunications, satellite radio and satellite television services provided to individuals in Cuba.

· Authorize the donation of certain consumer telecommunication devices without a license.

· Add certain humanitarian items to the list of items eligible for export through licensing exceptions.
Now i know its just suppose to be for communication between the cuban familes, just saying they are using us.

NOkittyNO April 22nd, 2009 11:09 PM

I am a cunt and no one likes me.

buck_futter April 22nd, 2009 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by NOkittyNO (Post 20879)
doesnt mean Cuba, China are shit holes. gg nub


i have to admit he does seem pretty sheltered to think that any communist country is a shit hole for a vaca. He probably thinks the same for any Nation that follows some socialist policies or doesnt have a brief capitalist economy. but thats why i love him. antisemitists are entertaining

HAWKEYE April 23rd, 2009 03:31 PM

Look at the troll , You are one of the dumbest fucks breathing , Why would you want to go there , if you want to see cubans go to fucking florida I was just there , What you dont understand is thats sure its a "cool" place but not really Sure the government might be doing fine, and its a tropical fucking island but the truth of the place is its forced poverty making it a shithole the government gets all the money and the people get shit its a worthless place. What I mean when I say i dont know much about politics is all the acts and dumb ass embargos that buck pointlessly posts, how countrys operate is fucking obvious there either on one side the world or the other

"gg nub" wow..

timmy! April 23rd, 2009 03:44 PM

http://www.floatingcubans.com/truck_starboard.jpg

HAWKEYE April 23rd, 2009 04:18 PM

thank you timmy:)

buck_futter April 23rd, 2009 05:25 PM

offtopic. this was about not being able to vacation on a nice island.

No offense Hawkeye but thats some stupid perspective you have there. Just because the cubans that actually live their live shitty lives doesnt mean you are going to have a poor shitty vacation. A big chunk of their GDP goes towards tourism/comes from tourism.. lol look at their top rated Hotel.. definitely a shit hole

http://www.cubatravelusa.com/paradisus_rio_de_oro.htm

HAWKEYE April 23rd, 2009 07:38 PM

I must say not bad , Im just saying they are a bunch of corrupt pricks worse than us on the political side of things , I just dont trust them.

worst dod player ever April 23rd, 2009 09:28 PM

?suoires os yhw lol

buck_futter April 23rd, 2009 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by worst dod player ever (Post 20889)
?suoires os yhw lol

cause willing ignorance pisses me off.


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